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Last Update 05/08/08

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We don't have any really good reports on fishing in Washington, despite the recent general season opener. My pal BOB at Loon Lake said that fishing was generally slow there. My buddy "Little Ricky" said his friends have started to hammer the spring chinook on the Snake River at "the wall" below Little Goose Dam. Fishing pressure isn't too crazy yet, but he said expect it to be packed with fishermen soon. When we haven't been fishing, we've been looking for turkeys and the elusive morel mushrooms that are just starting to pop up in our region.

Hauser lake is out of commission because the water level is so high, you'll find water in the parking lot. Bring waders if you must fish Hauser Lake in Idaho.

If you have any reports on any Washington lake, please send it to us and we'll print it here.

Latest Reports

Chain Lakes, Idaho May 5th, 2008

Along with two good friends, I fished the chain lakes off the CDA river for pike. We had a tip that the pike fishing had slowed tremendously at CDA, but was worthwhile at Cave Lake. We headed to our local bait shop for herring, and drove to Medicine lake, where we launched. Water quality in both lakes was off color and cloudy, but not horribly muddy. After arriving at Cave, we headed to the north side of the lake and fished off the weedy points in 3 to 4 feet of water with bobbers and herring rigged on wire leaders. Within 5 minutes, we had our first fish, a scrapper of 22.5 inches. By the time we left Cave lake, after running out of almost 3 dozen herring, we had landed 11 pike and many bullhead catfish of about 10-12 inches. We didn't land any big pike. Every one looked like the first one. We released most of them, only keeping 4 that were hooked deeply. Water temp was about 56 degrees. We decided to try and find some crappie in Medicine lake, but struck out. We electric motored around Medicine, casting spinnerbaits and plugs for either bass or pike. I landed a largemouth of about 1.5 pounds on a perch colored Husky Rap. We hadn't fished these lakes before. We noted a lot of good areas to fish from shore, and several fishermen were doing so. While we didn't see much action for them, one grizzled old gent landed a 2 footer while we were chatting with him and he told us of a 9 pounder he had landed there recently. Our top prospect small pike would be Cave or Medicine lake.


Matt sent me this report on fishing N. Idaho on May 6th

Well, Jimmie and I finally got out on the lakes and washed some lures. On Monday the 5th, we fished out of Mica bay for Chinook and trolled all the way to Lofts bay and back without a bump. We marked a few around 35' down, marked a bunch, (30 - 50) down 46' to 60' and marked hundreds down in the 80' - 100' ramge. We threw the tackle box at them to no avail. The surface water temp held between 46° and 48° all day long.

Today, the 6th, we fished Hayden and trolled for trout for 5 hours without a bump. We only marked 3 fish in the 35' range while in 150+ of water. In the last 5 years they F&G have stocked 2.1 million trout in that lake and you can't find them. We tried to Crappie fish and didn't do any good at that but I did catch a small 3 lb Pike I released. Surface temp on the south end of the lake is running 48° and the north end in the shallows is running 52° to 54°.

We'll go and hit them again soon.

Matt


Our friend Eric sent me this short note on PIKE fishing on May 5th.

Here is my fishing report on CDA pike. Anyway, the water came up, the fishing was ok, then the water went back down last weekend and the fishing stunk, but it started to come back up Wednesday and Thursday. I didn't get a chance to get out or hear if any of my friends went out. I would stick to the north half of the lake, the obvious spots are Cougar Bay and Wolf Lodge . A couple other producers are Blue Creek Bay and the Sportman's Access on the north end of Hayden Lake. By fishing Hayden you also have a chance at some huge Rainbows, up to 14 pounds every spring. My best friend just caught an 11 pounder on the flats before the drop off. He was pike fishing, but got lucky on the Rainbow instead, ! Let me know how you do, I'll be going on Wednesday night after work too.

Fish On!

Eric


Lake CDA, Idaho Hot Kokanee Tips

I'm keeping this information here despite the recent changes in the quality and quantity of CDA kokanee. Idaho, unlike Washington, tries to maximize the resource utilization. Unfortunately, they had a couple of year classes of kokanee that floundered, and have enacted some relatively SEVERE restrictions for 2007. The limit is now 6 salmon - KOKANEE OR CHINOOK. Some of the chinook fishermen are figuring that the IDFG is now sacrificing the king fishing, too. I'm not so sure....the kings are a fish that only a few guys get good at catching. Most of us only catch a few a year, and that is with a good hard effort.

My friend Matt is one of the best trollers I have ever met. His attention to details is what separates the 10% of fish catchers from the 90% who WANT to catch fish. He has graciously given us some tips on kokanee fishing that I thought I'd share with you. And in our regional report lower on this same page, he shares his secret sauce to catch more kokanee. Thanks, Matt!

The Key to Catching Kokanee...

The key to catching kokanee (blue back, silvers etc.) is speed, depth control and flexibility. For speed control, I use a Luhr Jensen trolling speedometer. These units are the most accurate and least expensive ways to control your speed. They cost about $40 at most sporting goods stores and they last forever. All lures and flashers work correctly at a specific speed range. Anytime you are out of that range, you’re just dragging dead metal around the lake. Every wake, wave set, wind gust or direction change immediately changes your speed. The quicker you can return your speed to the range your lure is working, the more time you are spending with your rigging actually attracting fish. For kokanee, when you are using flashers and a wedding ring, a speed of 1.0 knots to 1.2 knots seems to be the range that works the best but don’t be afraid to go as fast as 1.5 knots or as slow as 0.8 knots if that is what it takes to generate some strikes. Day to day, hour to hour, what speed the fish want can change, so you have to be ready to change with them. If you go for 30 minutes without a strike, change your speed, check your bait, make sure you’re not dragging weeds and maybe change colors of wedding ring.

Setting the hook

Kokanee have very soft mouths. If your hook is sharp there is no need to set the hook. The speed of the boat is usually enough to set the hook. Most hooks you buy are actually surprisingly dull. A sharp hook will dig into your fingernail if you just touch the nail with the point of the hook. Most store bought hooks won’t do that and require sharpening. A hook you just finished sharpening will dull with use so I’m constantly touching up my hooks, sometimes 3 or 4 times a day depending on how many fish hit. I carry a small box of assorted replacement hooks in my tackle box because hooks do wear out and need to be replaced. I do not use size 8, 10, 12 etc. hooks on my rigging. I use size 6 and size 4 single hooks, they seem to catch more kokanee. If trebles are used, I use sizes 8 or 10. I keep some glow hooks in this size in my tackle box and it only takes a minute or two to change out a hook and leader on a wedding ring. Monofilament line wears out and degrades in the sunlight. I replace all my leaders at least 2 or 3 times a season. If the kokanee are up in the 14” or larger size, I replace my leaders sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. Kokanee this size have teeth big enough to fray your leader in the first inch or so above the hook. I run my fingers over that section of line every couple of fish and as soon as I feel any roughness to the line, I change it. It’s better than the frustration of reeling in just a piece of leader after a hit.

Depth control

If you do not have a downrigger, there are several ways to control your depth, but all of them require accurate speed control also. Note, my first downrigger was an old window sash weight I put a release on and used clothes line rope with a loop tied in the line every 5’. I had a bolt that stuck out inside the boat that I hooked the loop on and by counting how many loops I had out, I knew somewhat what my depth was. I didn’t have a reel or anything, I just hand lined the thing up and down. I have 2 reels (a Penn 309 and a Penn 330 GTI) set up with 10 colors of 27 lb. test leaded line. I have 65’ of 14 lb. test FireLine between the leaded line and my ball bearing swivel that I hook the flasher set up to. Each color of leaded line is 30’ so you know the amount of line you have out at any time and the lead core line sinks as a specific rate determined by speed. Over the years, I have learned that at 1.0 knots of speed, pulling a 5 bladed Jack Lloyd flasher set, with all the leader out and enough leaded line out so it just touches the water, the flashers are running at about 6’ – 8’ deep. For each of the next 3 colors of leaded line you go down about 5’ per color. With 4 to 6 colors of lead out, your lure goes down 6’ – 7’ per color. I know that with 7 colors and leader out, at 1.0 knot I’ll tag bottom between 48’ and 52’ down. With 10 colors out, the lure is running 70’ to 75’ down. If you go slower, there is less drag on the line and the rigging, so your depth increases, going faster increases the drag so the depth decreases. Another way to control your depth is to attach a 2 or 3 ounce lead weight ahead of your flashers. When you let out your line, you do it by counting pulls. With one thumb on your line, use the other hand to pull the line from the reel to the first eyelet on your pole. Each time you do this is a pull. I’d start with about 30 to 35 pulls and increase it by 5 every 10 minutes or so until you either get a strike or you hit the bottom. With a bit of trial and error and a good memory (or a notebook), it doesn’t take too long to figure out how many pulls it takes to get to a certain depth.

Kokanee catch rate

Some days, if you get 20% of your strikes into the boat, you are doing good. Kokanee fishing can be frustrating if you let it get to you. On a recent Saturday, we had over 90 strikes, about 60 actually hooked up for a while and we got 23 into the boat. We lost about 20 within 10’ of the boat. That is pretty typical of kokanee fishing. If you caught them at 2:1, you were doing good. When I get a strike, if the fish is not immediately “on”, I keep the line out for another 2 minutes or so before I check the bait. A lot of times, a fish will hit and stay on during that next minute or so. If a fish hits and is “on” immediately pick up the rod and start reeling. Once your start reeling, if the fish starts fighting hard, slow down your reeling. If the fish eases up on the fight, reel a little faster, but DO NOT EVER quit reeling once you’ve started. Some times it feels like the fish got off when in actuality it is swimming with the rig instead of fighting the rig. If you quit reeling, the fish absolutely, every single time will get off.

Well, that is Matt's advice on kokanee. Head out to Loon or CDA and give it a try. One thing I have noted he does differently than a lot of other kokanee fishermen is change the colors of his wedding ring setups. I tend to always pull the same old fluorescent red color around, but Matt keeps every color from red to green to pink to orange in his box and tries them all if necessary.


Matt's Corn Scent Recipe

I take about a half of a teaspoon of red trout powerbait and put it in the blender with about ¾ cup of hot water. Add about 1 tablespoon of red food coloring and if you have it, some blue-back roe. Puree the mixture until it is all liquid, then pour that over a can of white corn that you have transferred into a Tupperware container. Stir it, then put the lid on and let it sit in the refrigerator overnight. The next morning, dump it into a colander and rinse it very well, pour this onto a paper towel and carefully roll it around some to remove the excess water. Put it back into the Tupperware and keep it cold. This mix seems to last about 2 weeks in the refrigerator and it was the only thing we could catch fish on this weekend. I had very good luck with it last year (358 blue back) and I’m hoping it keeps working this year.

Matt

Thanks to Matt for this recipe. If you have any reports or hot tips, send them in!

the troller


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